Question:
Anyone familiar with "21st Dec 2012"? Any thoughts on that day? Aliens? Armageddon? The 2nd Coming of Christ?
ramesh kula
2008-01-10 08:12:42 UTC
There are a lot of theories out there. What do you believe will happen on that fateful day (if at all)? And why? I'm fascinated by the possibilities.
21 answers:
Wayner
2008-01-10 09:51:51 UTC
According to the X-File mythos, this is the day that the "Colonists" will return to earth to reclaim their planet (they left millions of years ago for some reason. But they still have been watching and nurturing humans along...probably to serve as incubation vessels. Watch out for the "black oil"!



But...what it really is the latest end of the repeating Mayan calendar. If they were still around, they would just start it over.



It doesn't mean anything.
kuchcyk
2008-01-10 08:24:57 UTC
Only in the United States will anything happen because everywhere else uses a more logical date format. That date in the UK is 21/12/12 NOT 12/21/12



Maybe we can find consensus for 12th December 2012 which is 12/12/12 or 12/12/2012



As the date system we used was begun over 300 years after the birth of Christ when no one knew the actual year he was born it is all totally arbitrary anyway.



My guess is that nothing will happen on the 21st either because the world comes to end on the 12th or because nothing will happen. Could be that the world will be getting used to the idea of a second term for Obama around that time.
anonymous
2016-12-01 14:20:53 UTC
This stupid prophecy has not something to do with Christianity. your very own Bible even says not even the son is conscious the day and time. Are you claiming greater know-how than Jesus? undesirable lady. all of the wintry climate Solstice events i've got been to, there are a variety of, have been night affairs. summer season ones are diverse, regularly day and night affairs. In 2012 the authentic snigger insurrection events would be on the twenty 2nd which will rather arrive suited on time.
A.Mercer
2008-01-10 08:16:36 UTC
There are no scientific theories out there. A scientific theory would involve evidence. As it is, there are a lot of people making unsubstantiated claims. Look in the past and you will find lots and lots of doomsday predictions that failed. This will be added to that list. January 1, 2013 will come and the doomsday crowd will just find another prediction to wail over.
anonymous
2008-01-10 08:29:39 UTC
Interesting, but I hope my daughter gets more than 8 years of childhood joy, in lieu of this projected date.



I'm still just boggled by all of the "1"s & "2"s...12-21-2012, almost binary, but not quite. Maybe it's a new advanced form of alien binary code stepping up from just ones & zeros.



Any programmers tried using zeros, ones, and twos to unlock the creatures hidden beneath the Mayan pyramids yet? :D
anonymous
2008-01-10 08:18:33 UTC
End of the Mayan calendar and thats it

nothing else will happen

When you wake up on dec 22 2012 and things are the same what then?
Hitmytotem
2008-01-10 08:17:13 UTC
Not much will happen. It will be the last day of autumn that year...



Not unless some nutjob reads too much into aztec mythology, and decides to make something happen "in the name of God"... well, we always have that to worry about. Everything else is just baseless superstition. Sorry.
sexyjessy22
2008-01-10 08:17:18 UTC
Weird, Wicked Weird:

The end of the world as we know it?

By Kathryn Skelton , Staff Writer

Saturday, January 5, 2008

Source: www.sunjournal.com



"How to Survive 2012."



"The World Cataclysm in 2012."



"Apocalypse 2012: An Investigation into Civilization's End."



Spot the trend?



Dozens of new books predict the end of the world or something just short of it on Dec. 21, 2012, now less than five years away.



At the root of the hype is a rare galactic alignment and a broadly interpreted end of the ancient Mayan calendar. Some interpretations: It's the grand finale. A signal to aliens. The start of a transition for better or worse. Or nothing at all.



Oddly enough, it's a Western preoccupation.



David Carey visits Guatemala, home to millions of modern Mayans, for field work every other year. Mayans he's met aren't preparing for the end.



"I hear much more about it here than I do there," said Carey, a University of Southern Maine history professor.



"When they're amongst themselves, they're not looking at it quite as seriously as they might otherwise convey to tourists who want to hear them talk about 2012 as this propitious date."



Nonetheless, his prediction: "It could be the end of the world for certain individuals who plan on it."



So what's this all about?



About 2,000 years ago, the Maya, skilled stargazers, figured out when the December solstice sun would line up with the center of the Milky Way galaxy, according to Colorado author John Major Jenkins. It's an alignment that only happens every 26,000 years.





Mayans took that date - Dec. 21, 2012 - and used it as the end of their Long Count calendar, a measure of 5,125 years.



It was intended to be very important. The ends of cycles of all different lengths have significance for that culture.



"Among the Maya there was worry that when the end of a particular cycle would happen, that the world could potentially end because it was a time of a lot of transition. If something major was likely to happen, then it could conceivably happen" then, said Steve Whittington, former director of the University of Maine's Hudson Museum.



There would be ceremonies and often sacrifices to make sure things went smoothly. Any bad happenings were often self-fulfilling, he said. For instance, nervous that you might be attacked, you might do something that triggered it.



At the end of a major cycle like the Long Count calendar, "They'd really be nervous. But what's happened is New Age people and people who are looking for more mystical things in their own lives who belong to our own society have taken on this idea of the danger of the end of a Maya cycle.



"The fact that they know at some point Maya civilization collapsed, there's a lot of mystery surrounding that. I think they've sort of projected their own need for something strange and dangerous onto somebody else's calendar," Whittington said.



That notion seemed to really take hold after the publishing of José Argüelles's book, "The Mayan Factor" and his support of the Harmonic Convergence in 1987, when people gathered at "sacred" sites to welcome a new era.



"His argument was that the Maya were actually extraterrestrial aliens," said Kenneth Feder, an archaeology professor at Central Connecticut State University and author of "Frauds, Myths and Mysteries." That book's sixth edition came out last month.



The idea was that aliens had been here, left clues and were due back in 2012, Feder said.



"I really won't be cleaning up my bank account or kissing the wife and kiddies goodbye sometime in December 2012. I'm figuring we'll all probably live to see 2013," he said.



What Jenkins anticipates: This 5,125-year cycle will close and the following day will kick off the next 5,125-year cycle.



In other words, life goes on. It's healthy, however, to sit back in awe that Mayans could have pinpointed such a date without telescopes all those years ago, he said.



"It flies in the face of a lot of the stereotypes and clichés that we get from the media regarding the Maya: They were blood-thirsty savages tearing out hearts and they deserved to be wiped out. Almost," he said.



But even Jenkins allows, some things may change - and already have.



More cults? Solar flares?



He believes that a look at the past 50 years, between technological advances and ecological issues, shows that the world is in a period of transformation.



"All those various markers indicate we do live in an unprecedented time right now," Jenkins said.



Researcher Jim Reed has given two presentations on the meaning of 2012 this fall for the University of South Carolina's Mayan conference and the Institute of Maya Studies down in Miami. He said people could anticipate this next cycle being tied with movement (earthquakes, solar activity) for 20 years on either side of 2012.



Carey and Whittington agreed that if something happens on an individual level, it will be of the person's own doing. Preparing for the worst can bring it about. Whittington said he wouldn't be surprised to see more fringe group and cult activity as the date gets closer, people fixating on something happening.



"The concern that I have is that wacko goofballs with dirty bombs or something like that are going to choose that date to pull the lever or something like that, having their own agenda of terrorism or whatever, so that it will become sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy for insane people with weapons to do their deed, coordinated with what they perceive to be the foretold date of destruction," Jenkins said.
Citizen of EU
2008-01-10 08:16:52 UTC
It'll be just like it was 2. Feb 2002 - nice, sunny day
fridz
2008-01-10 08:31:25 UTC
if we take a look at all those disasters these years, PLUS what paranormals says that the disasters won't stop till 2010, then maybe the end of our world will come @ that day
?
2008-01-10 09:46:14 UTC
Writers of books that exploit some people's

ignorance will start writing nonsense about

some other end-of-the-world garbage.
Mysteriously Livin'
2008-01-11 22:03:03 UTC
We all have to wait and see.

It's on our opinions on what is going to happen and it doesn't mean our opinions will come true.



What will happen might be a new revelation or something else.
ifyahaftas
2008-01-10 08:15:50 UTC
Isn't this the date the mayans had said the world ends on?:
~ Floridian``
2008-01-10 08:17:46 UTC
This prediction is just one of many over the years... Nonsense, I say. Not to worry!
R_C_H
2008-01-12 09:34:04 UTC
I doubt anything will happen, just like the said about Y2K.
anonymous
2008-01-10 08:24:52 UTC
It will be the shortest day of the yr and & believe the first day of winter.
cuvcubby
2008-01-10 08:16:05 UTC
I thought it was May 5th. (Cinco de Mayo) Heard that for years. Wait and see.....
nikki696
2008-01-10 08:17:19 UTC
If my Grandfather is still alive, he will be 103.
Asiaaaa.
2008-01-10 08:16:33 UTC
jesus is going to come at ANY time.

You might not know the day, hour, minute, second.
jennifer k
2008-01-10 18:41:41 UTC
armageddom? coming of christ? hmmm... i think you all should watch ZEITGEIST youtube it. might make you 'Think' about things in another light.
Beth
2008-01-10 16:43:39 UTC
not really sure??


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