Question:
What proof do Atheists have that the world is over 6000 years old ?
?
2015-07-15 09:04:24 UTC
6000 years old or thereabouts anyway. I mean nobody know exactly when God created the Earth, but the oldest living human is 127 years old.. so how can we be certain the Earth is as old as scientists claim ?
87 answers:
Tr
2015-07-21 13:35:12 UTC
even based on the bible the earth is more then 6 thousand years old. many Christians make this mistake because of the generations mentioned between Adam and Noah. But remember before Adam and eve sinned there was an immeasurable amount of time that passed. this time wasn't and isn't recorded because before they sinned they were immortal so time simply wasn't tracked.



Another mistake is the mistake that people make when they assume that Cain and Able were the first two sons by Adam and Eve. But if you remember the story Cain, after killing his brother was marked by God and left for a new land. He found a wife and founded a city.



That right there proves that Adam and Eve had many before hand, if not then how did Cain find a wife. If God made that wife im pretty sure the bible would have just stated that but he found her. Then he founded a city. So here we are close to the beginning of time and he founds a city. Remember also the average life span was over 900 years.



So how many years were there between Adam and Noah?

Who knows, its known as the antediluvian period and this amount of time people believe was maybe hundreds of thousands or maybe even more years. Million? who knows.



in this time period it is believed that man developed a lot of tech, languages formed, remember the tower of babel, Nimrod/Gilgamesh, the watchers, space travel, then came the flood, Noah builds the arch, think about it, how could he and his sons have build something so vast. end of their modern world and beginning of a new one.



this isn't so far fetched either. With Noah and his family left and maybe pockets of people here and there, humanity would have had to start over again. its like a meteor hitting the earth now. if someone was left to start over they i assume wouldn't be able to reconstruct civilization, especially if they are an average Joe. So it would be back to sticks and stone. and as for all the beautiful monuments, they would be taken back by nature.



i say all that to say, get all the sides of the story before assuming. even this ridiculous story is believed to be true. and many others.



point blank, we weren't there so all we can do is guess and in this world, those with college degrees and money get the highest vote.
2015-07-20 15:52:36 UTC
It s not a division between atheists and believers. Lots of Christians believe the world is billions of years old. The Bible does not say otherwise. It was James Ussher in the 1600s who came to that conclusion. He claimed that only 1/6 of his dating method was Biblical and depended entirely on a certain understanding of genealogies and translations. It almost seems as if his claim was only "if A, B, and C are true, and a date can be found for creation at all, then that date would be 4004 BC."

There is a weight of evidence for the Universe and the Earth being far older than 6,000 years. There are several semi-constant factors whose effects can be used to estimate the passage of time. There's radioactive decay, meteor strikes, genetic mutations, and more. In tree rings, ice cores, and geological layers we see the chemical evidences for a whole history of natural events. Astronomy brings even more evidence of a long past. There are dozens of ways that the supposed age of creation has been calculated, and they do seem to corroborate. There are plenty of Christians in major scientific fields who don't think that the Scripture and science are at odds, and they have a pretty thorough, scholarly defense. These guys do a good job: http://reasons.org.
John H
2015-07-29 12:24:44 UTC
I'll ignore the "atheists" part of this question, because that is irrelevant. Radiocarbon dating doesn't explain "how old the earth is," but it definitely explains why we know it's older than 6,000 years.



Radioactive Carbon (C14) is created in the atmosphere by cosmic rays hitting Carbon Dioxide (CO2) particles. Plants take in CO2 during photosynthesis and so they take in regular Carbon (C12) and a certain amount of C14. Animals then eat the plants during their lifespans and take in C14. This is also true of carnivorous animals, they just have the extra step of eating the plant-eaters.



Radioactive Carbon has a half-life of between 5 and 6 thousand years. As soon as an animal dies, it ceases to ingest any more C14. The approximate ratio of C12 (non-radioactive carbon) and C14 in the atmosphere is variable, but is a known quantity within certain parameters. Over time, however, the C14 breaks down through radioactive decay. Every "half-life" of the C14, means only 1/2 as much of it is left from the original amount. The other half has turned into C12. So anything that is a "carbon-based" life form can be dated using the ratio of how much C12 and C14 there is in a plant or animal.



Obviously it won't tell you days and hours or even probably years, but it definitely is useful to date animals and plants up to around 50,000 years ago. That's about 10 half-lifes of the C14 which means that about 0.1% of the original C14 is still remaining. Older than that and the numbers run together.



So, this is a way (among many) to know that the earth is older than 6,000 years.
Jason
2015-07-19 08:51:08 UTC
There is no solid proof, but there is enough evidence to make it sure that it is at least more than 6000 years old. There has been solid documentation of human life for about 4500 years. And the dinosaurs and other fossils- how did they live, die, and become fossils within a short time that could at most be 1500 years? (dinosaurs and humans did NOT coexist) On top of that, we have seen carbon dating and geo dating. How do you explain the Grand Canyon without thousands of years of erosion? How long do you think humans have been on this earth? There were many eons even before the dinosaurs.
SRB101
2015-07-17 00:41:14 UTC
If you're saying you believe the Hebrew Calendar is accurate, then you're asking me to believe the Earth was created in the year 3760 BC. Think about that for a second. We've found STONE STRUCTURES older than that. Not only that, but there is NOTHING in the Bible stating the Earth is 6,000 years old. The Hebrew Calendar is based on the lifespan of everyone in the Old Testament. So, even if you go by what the Jewish Hierarchy themselves say about the age of the earth, it doesn't equal 6,000 years. You'd have to go back an additional 6,000 years if you believe each day of creation equaled one-thousand years.
busterwasmycat
2015-07-16 04:02:36 UTC
Without going into detail, unless everything was created pretty much exactly as it looks today rather than being the product of natural processes, it is not possible to have produced what we see. Sedimentation and erosion appear to be fairly constant processes in the natural world today, and it is impossible to have produced the sediment deposits that have been found around the world without many millions of years of erosion and deposition.



So, while it is remotely possible that the earth IS only 6000 years old, that idea would require that it is purposefully made to look as though it had been around for much longer.



Never mind that we have approximately 4500 years of documentable history of human civilization and evidence for considerable human habitation that precedes that 4500 years of known and documented existence.



So, like anything in reality, the proof requires either accepting that reality behaves in a constant fashion, or it doesn't. If it doesn't, then you cannot even prove that the earth wasn't created only a few seconds ago - that all is a false memory planted to fool you into being unaware that you just came into existence moments ago, so why choose 6000 years?
?
2015-07-18 14:50:08 UTC
Whoa! The World only 6000 years old? Well Son, human life form has been on the North American Continent for longer than 10,000 years crossing over from Asia.



Now your just going to have to tell me a few things about how the dinosaurs fossilized and became buried in 6000 years? Then we will deal with early sea life and the continental drift and how the mountains where pushed up. Perhaps throw in all the craters bisecting each other and filling with lava flows from a now frozen core moon...or how about the moon's parent asteroid colliding with an ancient Earth giving it that 23 degree tilt?



6,000 years? I think we are dealing with different math books here?
John
2015-07-22 17:40:32 UTC
6000 years earth story is made up of the old testimonial of the bible. Calendar of Sumerian and Babylon,Chinese and Indo,Persian ,Mayan are show way longer than that .Compare the civilizations and historical archaeological evidences of those civilizations with Jew stories in old testimony ,the story of the JEW's is none sense and does not have any scientific or mathematical fact base on the calculation .It's a too much simple kids story that has been told generation to generation till some one brought it to a writing mode ,Now how much they add or miss in the story up to them .They write it as they hear it without any evidence.An error geologically it happening that a lot of civilization were involve in to it (eruptions ,large magnitude earthquakes,Floods ,etc...) which most the astronomical ,science tablets ,people ,civilizations)has been lost ,therefore there been left some people survives to tell the story for next generation without any base calendar except the days of the error (event as begging).This can lead us approximately to last revulsion of the earth ,which was happened about 6000 years ago .That event it killed million or billion of the people and almost earth was inhabitable zone for many years after .Till survives put to gather and again those know writing and reading make the story submitted as they see or hear it. ,
?
2015-07-22 04:54:11 UTC
In uranium-lead dating, the radioactive decay of uranium into lead proceeds at a reliable rate. Based on the very old zircon rock from Australia we know that the Earth is at least 4.374 billion years old. But it could certainly be older.



Plus at least a thing ALL humans should know, is that we have been around for 200.000 years or more!!

How do we know it? Fossils, carbon-14 and carbon-12. All the proof is there, you just have to not be lazy and read it!
Aldo
2015-07-28 16:47:51 UTC
Fossils, ancient texts meaning writings from the time, evolution takes more than 6000 years, sediment, ancient societies, religion being proved false. Plus there isnt even evidence that the earth is 6000 years old at all. If you consider the bible good evidence, you would have to grab your shorts to find out what scientists consider evidence.
jrjdheh
2015-07-24 19:59:43 UTC
What proof do you have that the eatth is 6000 years old
geezerrex
2015-07-20 16:10:33 UTC
Just what proof do theists have that the earth is only 6000 years old?

Don't quote the bible, that is just stories made up by people trying to control all of the other people in their village!
Caesar
2015-07-15 09:21:14 UTC
First to clear something atheist just honestly dont believe in invisible friends that some people call gods. Atheism is not Science. Scientist of different kind like geology, astronomy, cosmology, biology... get data that proof with enough validation that 6,000 years old is not near the correct date. There are living organism like Bristlecone pines known to surpass 5,000 years in age there is a eucalyptus around 13,000 years old, at 100,000 years old, the Posidonia sea grass meadow was first taking root at the same time some of our earliest ancestors were creating the first known “art studio” yes humans at some tiny South African cave, archaeologists have unearthed a 100,000-year-old art studio that contains tools for mixing powder from red and yellow rocks with animal fat and marrow to make vibrant paints as well as abalone shells full of dried-out red pigment, the oldest paint containers ever found... Blombos Cave, which sits by the edge of the Indian Ocean about 180 miles east of Cape Town.
?
2015-07-24 07:07:34 UTC
did you not read your own bible? even if you are a creationist, it clearly says there was a time period between when animals were created and man was created. The 7 days of creation are not literal earth days. Anyway we are able to use carbon dating which measures the half life of carbon once it starts to break down on things, so we know for example that we can date say fossels or rocks to millions of years ago. Really most Christains accept the scientific age of the earth not just aithests
?
2015-07-20 17:01:09 UTC
There is no evidence that the world is 6000 years old or the universe is 14 billion years old. There is only theories. Now there is another theory called Cell theory. Cell Theory tells us that there are tiny single celled organism that live beyond our ability to see. If you wash your hands, cook food, take food into refrigeration. You practice the knowledge of germ theory
?
2015-07-27 19:47:20 UTC
Don't worry about the number 6000, that is only an approximation of the time lapsed in this "age" as the Bible refers to the time of man. If you look in Genesis, it says in the beginning, the Earth was without form and void., then talks about God's creation and formation of the Earth as we know it. But the Earth, as you see by that scripture, did exist before God got busy on current creation; who knows what He had going on in this pre-creation time on the Earth? So let'em say what they want about carbon-dating and what-not, God's word is true!
Texas
2015-07-15 23:35:30 UTC
First off, I'm not an Atheist, but I have studied science and it all comes down to what can you accept as common truth to start with. If you START with the assumption that natural selection is the only possible method of creating all the diverse creatures that inhabit the earth, then it is not possible for natural selection to have been effective within a 6000 year interval. But it may be a bit of a gamble to believe that any amount of time, even billions of years, is sufficient to produce higher order from chaos.



And if you start with a different scientific assumption, say the 2nd law of thermodynamics that in a closed system over time order becomes chaos, that if anything we expect devolution of the initial perfect form to one plagued by sin and corruption. This would be consistent with original sin and our need for redemption, our need for a savior. And of course there is an argument against this, that the Earth is not really a "closed system" as light from the sun provides outside energy that facilitates growth, and we see a seed turn into a sprout, a sprout grow into a plant that grows into a vine, a tree or whatever more complex form having started from the simple form of a seed.



Within the realm of science, originally the Big Bang was a pretty controversial theory. Atheists would have a preference for the "Steady State Universe", what is has always been and always will be. The evidence for the Big Bang in turn indicates evidence of a Creation Event; at some point the universe as we know it began. What happened before that? Was there some initial cause? Something inconceivably more powerful than we can imagine. And God said "Let there be light" and there was light.



So science does give us facts we can't explain without God. And at the same time, to be able to do valid scientific experiments, we have to be hopeful that God is not performing any miracles in the middle of our experiments that provide unexpected / non-repeatable results such as successful cold fusion. So in principle the scientific method limits us to what we can perceive and measure, which in turn limits us to that which is perceivable and measurable, Heizenberg showed us some limits to what is measurable by man and God is powerful beyond all measure.



If I start again with a different supposition. Man has a worthy purpose. Life without purpose would be without meaning. Principles of science alone provide no worthy purpose. What is the chief end of man? To glorify God and enjoy him forever. To this end, the most popular and frequently printed book on the planet indicates the world is about 6000 years old if you count up all the who begat whoms and that is sufficient for me to accept Genesis as a truthful account of the beginning of the world, which Jesus referred to as the source of original sin from which he came to redeem us.
?
2015-07-17 14:22:17 UTC
Why do non-atheists insist on asking these questions? We don't go over to the religious areas of Y!A and hang out to troll you about evolution and the history of the Earth. I know this isn't an answer, but frankly it really annoys me. Why do you push your views on us when we leave you alone?



Anyway. We know that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old because of various radiometric dating methods, in addition to measuring the lives of the other planets and the Sun. All were created roughly 4.5 billion years ago, determined by various methods.
joensfca
2015-07-17 16:41:22 UTC
The accepted age of the Earth is about 4.54 billion years,[1] while the entire universe is around 13.77 billion years.

These ages weren't just made up. They were devised from a range of experiments and observations made across multiple disciplines of science such as astronomy, geology, biology, palaeontology, chemistry, geomorphology and physics. They have been revised several times based on new evidence, but never to the degree of the many orders of magnitude required to bring them in line with Biblical literalism. YECs, however, ignore these experiments and evidence in favor of pseudoscience and their biblically-based view that the world was created by magic.



http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_against_a_recent_creation
Rahul
2015-07-22 07:53:57 UTC
Why even 6000 years, there is no evidence that world is older than the 3000 years!
Michael Darnell
2015-07-15 17:25:46 UTC
This link explains how scientists figured out the age of the Earth;

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-science-figured-out-the-age-of-the-earth/



While most atheists like myself, do accept the explanations offered by science, that is not really any part of atheism. That happens because many atheists are skeptics, and science stands up to skeptical scrutiny. If you learn a little history you will find out that long before there was a science of geology, there were atheists. That is because "atheist" is just a term for someone who disbelieves in any God or gods.



There is no requirement for atheists to accept science, and although they are rare some do not. Over the last 30 years I've met at least two atheists who reject evolution, and at least one who does not accept most of the currently accepted science of physics and chemistry (however he also suffers from mild schizophrenia and bipolar disorder and even he admits that his atypical views are likely related to his mental illness.)
Danny
2015-07-15 10:42:12 UTC
Radioactive decay dating. Look it up, it's very solid science.
A.Mercer
2015-07-15 09:59:40 UTC
You need to study geology. They have all kinds of dating methods. Ranging from layer analysis to radiometric dating. The radiometric dating for the age of the planet involves dating uranium isotopes and the compounds they make in rock like granite. All of the different methods work together and paint a picture of an old Earth with many different layers at many different ages.
gillie
2015-07-15 09:48:54 UTC
When you get to high school you'll study science and start to learn about how scientists study the earth and determine its age. That is, providing you're not in a creationist school or homeschool program where you're not allowed to learn real science.
king_davis13
2015-07-15 09:37:20 UTC
I am not a scientist but I know that tree rings prove the Earth is far older than 6k years and ice cores from the poles go much farther back than that. The dating methods that creationists try to ignore and claim are false have been proven to be very accurate when used properly and they like to highlight when the tool was used wrong as evidence that they don't work. That's like blaming your refrigerator for cutting your grass too short. You have to use the right tool for the job. My advice would be to investigate the claim from actual scientific literature and make you own decision after educating yourself on the subject. Hope this helps.
SolusLutrinae
2015-07-15 09:15:47 UTC
The 8,000 year old Bristlecone Pine chronology. Even Answers in Genesis has no answer to this one.
lunatic
2015-07-15 09:13:25 UTC
By your logic we can't really be sure the Earth is older than 127 years.



In order to understand why we know the Earth is 4 + billion years old, you must study science. Science is not a belief. It is a tool used to help us understand the universe around us. Once you know how science works, belief becomes irrelevant.
?
2015-07-15 09:07:32 UTC
You're going in the complete wrong direction here. Atheism doesn't concern the age of the universe or the Earth itself. Atheism involves and ONLY involves the disbelief of any and all Gods. An Atheist doesn't have to accept science as the truth. Stop bringing pointless subjects into the mix, it's very counterproductive.
2015-07-15 09:05:34 UTC
I don't even bother attempting to debate young earth creationists, because nothing I can say will ever penetrate their protective layer of stupid.
okiknowit
2015-07-15 09:05:12 UTC
Carbon dating?
Axiliztli
2015-07-15 15:32:06 UTC
Carbon 14 can date organic vestiges until ages between 60 and 100 thousand years old because in bones and other vestiges this isotop has a regular period of degradation which works as a clock and cannot be alterated to simulate more or less age in organic pieces.



On the other hand every human mind is the product of his or her parents

orphans can't say that nobody can prove them they are the product of their two parents just because they had never known them.
The White Rabbit
2015-07-15 09:48:18 UTC
Either you are a troll or very,very dim. Firstly what has the age of the planet got to do with atheism? As for your asinine question - geology, biology, archaeology,paleontology, etc., etc.
2015-07-15 09:38:29 UTC
Rocks
2015-07-15 09:23:03 UTC
Radio carbon dating can tell the age of many things, and some of them are WAAAY more than 6000 years. And I am not an atheist. I am a practicing Catholic.
Sly Phi AM
2015-07-15 09:22:01 UTC
What proof do you have that it wasn't created last Thursday?



http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Last_Thursdayism
2015-07-15 09:13:39 UTC
What proof do Atheists have that the world is over 6000 years old ?



--- The world for starters.



And, if god is real, then we can't be sure the earth is older than 1 second. How do you know god didn't create the earth one second ago, simply implanting false memories in all our brains?



This is why god is beyond useless.



Yes. Maybe every sense experience you have, have had, and ever will have is utterly false and unreliable. Maybe you can only trust revelation to god....but, how will you receive that revelation? Through sensory experience which you claim cannot be trusted....so god cannot be trusted either.



Where do these pointless god musings get anyone?
2015-07-15 09:11:20 UTC
The oldest living person is Susannah Mushatt Jones who is 116.



Radiometric dating techniques. We know how old something is by how much nuclear decay has occurred of certain substances. Carbon dating is used for up to around 20,000 years. Scientists use other elements for things that are older.
?
2015-07-15 09:07:44 UTC
Geology, astronomy, cosmology, biology....go to www.talkorigins.org to see what actual scientists have to say.
2015-07-15 09:06:38 UTC
A lot of proof and evidence, but what is the point in sharing that with you? It's pointless, you won't understand anyway, it will go WAY over your head.



You shouldn't require much "proof" anyway, you already blindly believe in something.
Mackey
2015-07-15 09:06:07 UTC
Zircon.



I find it interesting that you ask for proof of the age of Earth but obviously do not require the same when it comes to your irrational beliefs in fictional characters like God.
Tom
2015-07-21 13:37:26 UTC
Well,, just a few examples.--We know how many years it takes radioactive material to decay--so we need only measure RATIOS OF ONE ELEMENT TO ANOTHER in a piece of rock to tell how old it is.--Sometimes it is Billions!

we can figure out how long it takes layers of sediment to lay down at the bottom of a lake or ocean---even observe thin layers in real time---And figure out the age of large sequences from that----Thousands to Millions of years.

All sorts of similar methods. And who sez you have to be an Atheist? I am a Methodist and a Geologist.

Reality does not conflict with the Bible, only MEN's INTERPRETATIONS of it. Just some Religious sects end to stick with OLD INTERPRETATIONS and not modify them when God reveals new clues to what he really meant.----God's word may never change, but our understanding of it certainly does.
?
2015-07-20 18:37:00 UTC
Your question: "What proof do Atheists have that the world is over 6000 years old ? 6000 years old or thereabouts anyway. I mean nobody know exactly when God created the Earth, but the oldest living human is 127 years old.. so how can we be certain the Earth is as old as scientists claim ?"



Why do you ask? Why the number 6000?



I will assume you have made some connection to a religion creation schema, although I do not know.



More importantly, though, why do you ask of atheists?



Atheism is unrelated to geophysics, from which the most probably age of Earth is deduced.



So you are wasting your time asking. Try here:



"How Old is the Earth - A Response to “Scientific” Creationism"

by G. Brent Dalrymple

Copyright © 1984-2006

• http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dalrymple/radiometric_dating.html



Asking atheists to answer your question solely because they are atheists is about as unreasonable as asking the persons cited below this question: "What proof do elected or aspiring political hacks have that the world is some particular age?"



“... I believe that God created the universe and that the six days in the Bible may not be six days as we understand it, it may not be 24-hour days, and that's what I believe. . . . My belief is that the story that the Bible tells about God creating this magnificent Earth on which we live -- that is essentially true, that is fundamentally true." -- Barack Obama, 2008

by Nick Wing, 21 November 2012, The Huffington Post

• http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/13/se.01.htmlWe are on our own.



"Well actually the Genesis 8:22 that I use in there is that "as long as the earth remains there will be seed time and harvest, cold and heat, winter and summer, day and night," my point is, God's still up there. The arrogance of people to think that we, human beings, would be able to change what He is doing in the climate is to me outrageous." - Senator James Inhofe (2012)

• http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/james-inhofe-says-bible-refutes-climate-change



"... I, RICK PERRY, Governor of Texas, under the authority vested in me by the Constitution and Statutes of the State of Texas, do hereby proclaim the three-day period from Friday, April 22, 2011, to Sunday, April 24, 2011, as Days of Prayer for Rain in the State of Texas. I urge Texans of all faiths and traditions to offer prayers on those days for the healing of our land, the rebuilding of our communities and the restoration of our normal way of life."

• http://governor.state.tx.us/news/proclamation/16038/



"[In college] I wasn't doing well in freshman chemistry, which was a prerequisite for medical school. The night before the exam I poured out my heart to God, asking forgiveness for squandering such a wonderful educational opportunity. I asked him to show me what he really wanted me to do with my life, since I obviously wasn't going to get into medical school. Preferably, I asked him to work a miracle.... I knew that God had granted me my miracle. I promised God I would become a diligent student and make him proud of me."

• http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Ben_Carson_Principles_+_Values.htm



“No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.” – George H.W. Bush, August 27, 1987

• http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/ghwbush.htm



The latter would be a good choice if you really want to ask someone who is unqualified to answer. He may be dead soon, so if you really want an answer from someone who would not know, you will have to ask soon:



"On the surface, selling arms to a country that state-sponsors terrorism, of course, clearly, you'd have to argue it's wrong... But it's the exception sometimes that proves the rule…. I think history has to prove whether it's wrong... I think it is debatable, and I think on the surface, you can make the case that it's wrong... I think we could argue that it was right.” – George H.W. Bush, 1987

by Matthew Purdy, Inquirer Washington Bureau, 29 January 1987

• http://articles.philly.com/1987-01-29/news/26189602_1_grand-jury-arms-sales-special-prosecutor



It is a complete intellectually dead end leading to ignorance, delusion, and greed-driven antisocial propaganda. You ought to make some effort to educate yourself rather than latching on to simplistic propaganda from professional political hacks and others selling religion. They are typically ignorant of the physical science involved.



You have no reason to believe atheists would be any better educated.
Adam
2015-07-22 15:10:25 UTC
I feel like one thing to mention is that we know that it takes billions of years for a solar system to form, with most of the planets in said solar system it goes threw another millions of years of being bombarded by space debris. Not to mention they are pretty sure that are moon was formed from a planet that hit the earth in its infancy by a larger planet called Theia, then after millions of years gravity caused the debris to start to clump together forming our moon. This doesn't happen in small period of time. Also keep in mind our planet has gone through 5 mass extinctions.
el atlatl
2015-07-26 08:41:50 UTC
Ask a geologist, not an atheist. You are deluded.



any fool can look at a muddy river and see that the erosion came from the mountain which is very slowly becoming level after many many years.
nikki1234
2015-07-24 12:24:41 UTC
the fossil record is pretty good reason. the geologic eras in the soil. the moon itself is evidence that the earth is older than 6000-years. while it might mean that the bible was conceived, developed, and written it just seven-days; how can anyone believe it without even once doubting its creditability, or its validity?

that is circumspect, at best.
alan
2015-07-24 02:43:34 UTC
Read a geology book or a good science book, all the proof is there, i am a Christian I believe the earth is 4.5 billion years old
?
2015-07-18 18:16:54 UTC
human societies trace back about 6000 - 7000 years. you can't prove your 'atheists' had anything to do with that, since most archaeology digs are done by christians, muslims and jews. most of the scientists belong to religious groups.
Larry
2015-07-22 21:20:17 UTC
Their faulty computers tell them the world is WAY over 6,000 years old.



The world started around 4,000 BC and now it's 2015 AD which means the world is 6,000 years old. IDK any other way to explain it but Adam lived to 900 years old and Noah, I think around 300.



And BTW on BC it counted down so in 4,000 BC the next year would be 3,999 BC.
thomas_tutoring2002
2015-07-17 07:46:44 UTC
NOT AN ATHEIST but proof of reason would make sense of the earths



"INSIGHT ON THE SCRIPTURES" --VOL. 1 P. 667



Creation. The planet’s coming into existence is recounted in the Bible with the simple statement: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” (Ge 1:1) Just how long ago the starry heavens and the earth were created is not stated in the Bible. Therefore, there is no basis for Bible scholars to take issue with scientific calculations of the age of the planet. Scientists estimate the age of some rocks as being three and a half billion years, and the earth itself as being about four to four and a half billion or more years.



As to time, the Scriptures are more definite about the six creative days of the Genesis account. These days have to do, not with the creation of earth’s matter or material, but with the arranging and preparing of it for man’s habitation.



The Bible does not reveal whether God created life on any of the other planets in the universe. However, astronomers today have not found proof that life exists on any of these planets and, in fact, know of no planet besides the earth that is at present capable of supporting the life of fleshly creatures.



MORE......



COMMENTARY:



The Bible’s Viewpoint

Does Science Contradict the Genesis Account?



MANY people claim that science disproves the Bible’s account of creation. But the real contradiction is between science and, not the Bible, but the opinions of so-called Christian Fundamentalists. Some of these groups falsely assert that according to the Bible, all physical creation was produced in six 24-hour days some 10,000 years ago.



The Bible, however, does not support such a conclusion. If it did, then many scientific discoveries over the past hundred years would indeed discredit the Bible. A careful study of the Bible text reveals no conflict with established scientific facts. For that reason, Jehovah’s Witnesses disagree with “Christian” Fundamentalists and many creationists. The following shows what the Bible really teaches.



When Was “the Beginning”?



The Genesis account opens with the simple, powerful statement: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” (Genesis 1:1) Bible scholars agree that this verse describes an action separate from the creative days recounted from verse 3 onward. The implication is profound. According to the Bible’s opening statement, the universe, including our planet Earth, was in existence for an indefinite time before the creative days began.



Geologists estimate that the earth is approximately 4 billion years old, and astronomers calculate that the universe may be as much as 15 billion years old. Do these findings—or their potential future refinements—contradict Genesis 1:1? No. The Bible does not specify the actual age of “the heavens and the earth.” Science does not disprove the Biblical text.



How Long Were the Creative Days?



What about the length of the creative days? Were they literally 24 hours long? Some claim that because Moses—the writer of Genesis—later referred to the day that followed the six creative days as a model for the weekly Sabbath, each of the creative days must be literally 24 hours long. (Exodus 20:11) Does the wording of Genesis support this conclusion?



No, it does not. The fact is that the Hebrew word translated “day” can mean various lengths of time, not just a 24-hour period. For example, when summarizing God’s creative work, Moses refers to all six creative days as one day. (Genesis 2:4) In addition, on the first creative day, “God began calling the light Day, but the darkness he called Night.” (Genesis 1:5) Here, only a portion of a 24-hour period is defined by the term “day.” Certainly, there is no basis in Scripture for arbitrarily stating that each creative day was 24 hours long.



How long, then, were the creative days? The wording of Genesis chapters 1 and 2 indicates that considerable lengths of time were involved.



Creations Appear Gradually



Moses wrote his account in Hebrew, and he wrote it from the perspective of a person standing on the surface of the earth. These two facts, combined with the knowledge that the universe existed before the beginning of the creative periods, or “days,” help to defuse much of the controversy surrounding the creation account. How so?



A careful consideration of the Genesis account reveals that events starting during one “day” continued into one or more of the following days. For example, before the first creative “day” started, light from the already existing sun was somehow prevented from reaching the earth’s surface, possibly by thick clouds. (Job 38:9) During the first “day,” this barrier began to clear, allowing diffused light to penetrate the atmosphere.*



On the second “day,” the atmosphere evidently continued to clear, creating a space between the thick clouds above and the ocean below. On the fourth “day,” the atmosphere had gradually cleared to such an extent that the sun and the moon were made to appear “in the expanse of the heavens.” (Genesis 1:14-16) In other words, from the perspective of a person on earth, the sun and moon began to be discernible. These events happened gradually.



The Genesis account also relates that as the atmosphere continued to clear, flying creatures—including insects and membrane-winged creatures—started to appear on the fifth “day.” However, the Bible indicates that during the sixth “day,” God was still in the process of “forming from the ground every wild beast of the field and every flying creature of the heavens.”—Genesis 2:19.



Clearly, the Bible’s language makes room for the possibility of some major events during each “day,” or creative period, to have occurred gradually rather than instantly, perhaps some of them even lasting into the following creative “days.”
?
2015-07-21 09:41:17 UTC
carbon dating of dinosaur bones, geologic strata analysis. There are infinitely more scientific data to show the Earth is billions of years old than there are to show it is a mere 6000.
Nick N. Ame
2015-07-16 13:45:52 UTC
Dendrochronology (counting tree rings) can date the Earth back 12,000 years, There's not 'fancy' science involved, it's just a matter of overlapping one set of tree-rings with an older tree, back and back and back 12 thousand years.
Edward R
2015-08-03 08:33:15 UTC
Carbon dating
?
2015-07-19 11:37:47 UTC
Why do we need to put a number on anything, atheist refuse to believe in GOD because they feel they are their own god and the world revolves around them. I know the atheist will find this simplistic and won't agree with it but, who cares.
?
2015-07-30 22:13:16 UTC
Every year, the Earth gains a layer. Just count the rings in the middle.
?
2015-07-17 15:07:09 UTC
History Channels.
Lia
2015-07-31 00:48:14 UTC
Carbon dating
?
2015-07-18 18:48:00 UTC
Something about rocks, can't remember what it was, but saw it in a documentary once. Now, what is YOUR proof that the Earth is only 6,000 years old?
Spencer
2015-07-21 22:16:29 UTC
I'm not gonna bother with the piece of **** bible. The fossil record. Carbon dating. History of our dna. There. Proof.
Layla
2015-08-03 00:19:02 UTC
Hehhehhdhdhdu
?
2015-07-29 18:25:29 UTC
Dinosaurs and carbon dating. As long as we know the laws of the universe are constant, carbon dating will always give a correct reading.
Irv S
2015-07-22 15:33:09 UTC
DUDE!

Tree ring data goes back further than that.

So does Varve ,data (Wiki it), and those are two of the shortest

of the recognized scales.

They are based on simple mechanics and not open to question.
Aaron
2015-07-21 11:25:25 UTC
They only base it from what the Bible states and it only states the earth is 6,000 years old. The bible appears to have solid facts. Lol
great knight
2015-07-18 18:40:02 UTC
There isn't any and they know it. See, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38Bp-ZWyQj8 and all those videos. They know layers formed rapidly, they know dating methods don't work on rocks of known age but assume they work on rocks of unknown age! You can't make this up!!! Get a kjversion Bible.
Joseph hola
2015-07-22 20:42:22 UTC
The bible does not say it's 6K. In fact the days might have been long periods of time.
Llama
2015-08-03 06:55:36 UTC
Hey man, carbon dating. End of discussion
?
2015-07-17 21:20:03 UTC
You should read a little about radioactive dating and things like erosion which created the Grand Canyon and all those jagged mountains.
Bill
2015-07-24 14:20:40 UTC
The truth is out there... we just haven't found it yet. Get a grip, you don't need religion for anything!
Gerik
2015-07-29 15:07:42 UTC
Carbon dating of fossils.
Periferalist
2015-07-18 09:51:56 UTC
Why bother providing you with any proof? You're not going to believe it.
stephen
2015-07-31 01:14:22 UTC
You are here, that's part of the proof.
Todd
2015-07-17 10:20:42 UTC
Carbon dating.
?
2015-07-15 18:01:43 UTC
Carbon dating measures the decay of carbon in matter if it is older it will have less carbon.
mindy
2015-07-29 11:10:41 UTC
carbon dating, but even that isn't 100% accurate, so everything is a theory, not true solid fact.
Presuppositional Atheist
2015-07-18 01:20:59 UTC
Why do you ASSUME the Earth is only 6,000 years old? The Bible said it, so screw any other viable explanation?
?
2015-07-23 14:30:31 UTC
What proof do you have that it is under
?
2015-07-22 05:58:09 UTC
Rock layers. Its rock layers.
2015-07-15 23:18:49 UTC
none really, all our science and history is pretty much erroneous. we dont really know much of our past except the last few hundred years.
Exzoovier
2015-07-27 16:54:05 UTC
They have drawings and shears for shearing sheep and tools.
Philip B
2015-07-16 00:32:36 UTC
How long have you got? What proof have you got that it isn't?
Billy Butthead
2015-07-22 07:48:23 UTC
7,000 years old bones.
Aubrey
2015-07-24 22:08:28 UTC
its all in the fossils bro
TTT
2015-07-17 07:26:02 UTC
DUPID CHRISTIANS NOT INTERESTED IN EVIDENCE. CANNOT OVERCOME THEIR BRAINWASHED CHILDHOOD.
Derek
2015-07-21 00:43:32 UTC
Your just an idiot
Danielle
2015-07-17 16:22:27 UTC
why do you need to know
?
2015-07-17 11:26:26 UTC
**** me in the *** I'm gay.
?
2015-07-28 16:00:59 UTC
no
Paul
2015-07-28 15:23:43 UTC
you are so ******* stupid


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